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Crambal
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: THE 'SETUP' Reply with quote

It's about setup, it was about setup earlier too, just that Mr. M.Tamang, the true leader,and a person who loved the hills wanted the 'Gorkhaland', he raised the voice. The janta made some murmurs but the 'janta' was and is with 'setup'. Mr Tamang felt there could be something, whereas at the outset only many had given up hope, that anything would come up. He lost his life, trusting that the true voices would be respectd. By the way, the earlier movement was led by 'arrawalas, gadiwala, a sepoy and so, many revel,enjoy in pointing out this, and criticize, but the fellows were fighting for gorkhland, not for 'setup', though the blood of 1200 martyrs did not go in vain, a Development Council was achieved, on the existence of whom another 'set-up ' development council is being received.
Mr. M.Tamang was fighting for us ,speaking for us, many felt he was speaking true, some wanted him dead and so he has been martyred. And the hills have lost one of its son, a Gorkha leader who always fought for the good of Gorkhas. Many has taken up the cause for many reasons in the 80's the biggest movement for self rule" Gorkhaland' the objective was Gorkhland , but today 'loot' that too in quickest time.
What has been achieved, well there should be no loss, forget about gain, the question is about retaining what we had achieved during earlier struugles, well for some there was no gain from earlier movement. The council was run by agents as they were using funds of state, what about the present, the are 'AGENTS' too, even illegal as not elected.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy who is in doubt , let him make a round,a visit of the hills , he will get an idea of what is happening. The decisions taken by x,y,z is not binding on the janta, the talks, well there should be held. There must be peace in the hills, the goondaism must stop, well the murderers of M.Tamang must be arrested, C.B.I inquiry should be held, the state may be finding easy to deal with the ones who can be 'BOUGHT' but that would not bring about settlement. Untill then, peace would not return to the hills, situations may deteriorate.
Coming to big 'setup' feel sorry for dooars and the plains. In the development council, there should be RESERVATION FOR SCs/STS, the constitutional rights of the scs and sts should not be violated. Any future set-up, arrangement must have that, in the past it was denied, this time it should not be done. for this the SC/ST organisation should take up the issue , approach the Centre and State govts. Rest . let's see.
Jai Bhim!
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Crambal
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's over, almost, the SET-UP is going to come into effect, the wishes of the ones eager for set-up is going to be fulfilled. Gorkhland wasn't the aim for the fellows only the public was unnecessarily excited, for loot-SET-UP is good.
it's time to stand up, to see, let's come back to our senses, ' hyo, nagijuguda baamri puibari hatani, khaldai thobari natapari hapino' 'nagijugula meetingri niba, thengadala leecha brahbari khla toji'
when the shoe is worn out, it should be discarded, when the clothes get old, tattered, it must be thrown, this undergarment has started stinking, it must be thrown. 'nabadney suungurlai palnu hudaina, Also saap palnu hudaina'
27th July was shahid diwas for those who participated in the 80s agitation, it should be 'Mourning Day' for GJM as gayenay and others have time and again pointed out, 80s agitation was in vain, Ghising misled people, so the question of taking pride in sarifice for a cause doesn't arise so 'Mourning Day'.
The matter is more or less over,finished, the reservation for scs/sts in the new administrative set-up should come SMOOTHLY.The recruiting power of the set-up should be confined to D grade only. one probable question in recruitment exam should be like this-
Q.who has harrassed and captured the property, and part of estate of the two elderly ladies belonging to AFghan Royal family living at Chadralok in Kaimpong?
hint-'gayenay'
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GAA isn't in the interest of the hill people, there is problem with the system of election to the body. The third tier being the house sought to have legislative power,is designed to be elected through indirect election,or nomination, so useless fellows who would not win ward election would get the chance, further the QUESTION is about the reservation for SCs/STs in this third tier Body. There seems to be no such provision. Also 25 % seats to be nominated by state, is unnecessary and ridiculous (5 of 20)seats, the nominated fellows to have equal powers, it would cause problems. It's too big a percentage. It's another Development Council, nothing great, it isn't anything to be regarded as an achievement. The SCs/STs have been deprived of reservation, it is a conspiracy against the SCs/STs by the GJM. The old system of electing to the council is good, just, in it there has to be made provision for reservation of constituencies for SCs/STs. The question of accepting any set -up without reservation doesn't arise, the SC/ST associations should rise up against the conspiracy, preparing for legal challenges if the need arises. Let's not be mislead this time, no compromise with one's constitutional right. Not to ask for it would be' Afnoi khuttama banchoro hannu jasto'. We were enlightened at the time of 6th schedule debate about 2nd class citizens and so, being denied citizenships in 6th schedule etc by gayney etc, right now we SCs/Sts are being made 2nd class citizens by being denied constitutional right. let the associations give a call to fight against this injustice.
No set-up without reservation for SCs/STs, the constitutional rights should not be denied, GJM is trying to do that. The reservation is expected to cross 50 %, though we were told that during talks of 6th schedule that STs were 34 % and SCs are considered to about 10 %, but these figures aren't authentic figures, latest updated figures should be used to decide reservation. Also the hill parties should make proper noises, if the want to run their 'shops' in the hills, otherwise later on ther would be problems. Also the higher education to be made the subject of council too is dangerous, the experienced extortionists would trouble the minority institutions and cause the ruin of education in the hills.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The set-up is a reality now, the stomach to fight for land is lost for now, with the 'chors' deciding things. In the history of the hills, this time would be remembered as the dark phase, a worst phase when 'chors' are seen to be deciding things for the Darjeeling Gorkhas, they are said to be talking on our behalf.
Coming to set-up, it is expected some responsible person speak on the reservation issue, let Mr. L.B.Pariyar clear up the things, let things be stated in black and white. Why is RESERVATION being denied? the answer must come.The CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION is being violated, WHY? the question deserves answer. The associations must pursue the matter, the concerned ministries must be approached, it is the right time now, when things are being discussed. The question of set-up, without reservation is not ACCEPTABLE.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the mode of election to the third tier body, the process adopted is the indirect election, in this GAA. The 2nd tier bodies in the panchayat areas it could be the panchayat samiti members, or anchal pradhans, in the urban areas it could be the ward councilors,etc. On the share of the seats in this 2nd tier, the political parties, their bosses would NOMINATE their candidates to the third tier. So, the political bosses are the ultimate authority to choose our representatives. The people is losing their power to choose their candidates, a VIRTUAL DISENFRANCHISEMENT is taking place, in this GAA. No more can we choose the candidates of our choice, nor keep anyone from getting to the house. The indirect election would allow the political parties, their bosses to appoint their pets to the house. maili, saili, from the dancing brigade, and kanchi from the GLP would be nominated to the house. Oiling business would be the best business, so intellectuals too would get in, as also those who would never manage to get elected to a municipality. The public would have to watch the show, become useless. The fellows are robbing us of our power to choose our representatives, no more can we vote for X, Y candidates of our choice. This is SET-UP. Congrats to GJM.
It's good if we keep aside the G'land issue for the time being and try to understand GAA. The youth need to understand, this set-up is not for a year or too, it would be for no of years, so must things seriously.
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